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Issue ID# 321 Cuffs animation messed with object animation when sit
Status: Closed Version: 7.4.15 Priority: 3
Assigned to: Submitted by: Arjunningrum Attached file:
Type: Bug Submitted:
15/09/2018 06:45:55 PDT 		Last Update:
16/09/2018 18:37:32 PDT
Description: 1. Sit on the object which has animation (example: a sofa ))

2. Apply the arm cuffs on "back-mid" or "behind the head"

3.

What should happen: Arms animation stay on the cuffs pose

What actually happens: Arms animation messed with sit animation

Note ID# 1363:

User: Lulu Submitted: 15/09/2018
Hi Arjunningrum,

Can you check whether the 'refresh' option is on? That should override things.

Cuffs Menu > settings > refresh

If it is on, and it still doesn't work, check to see whether only certain sit animations are affected (e.g. only this sofa, or this brand of sofa). That's because we don't use animation hacks (e.g. higher priority than 'legally' allowed). The sofa might have increased their animation priority beyond what is allowed.

Note ID# 1364:

User: Lulu Submitted: 15/09/2018
Updated status to Need Info from New.

Note ID# 1365:

User: Arjunningrum Submitted: 16/09/2018
When refresh button is off, the arm cuffs animation is normal while standing, but the arm pose changed when sit.

When refresh button is on, some of arm cuffs animation is messed while standing, and the arm poses messed when sit. It's like the arm cuffs poses are fighting against stand arm poses and sit arm poses.

It still happens both when Vista AO on or off.

Note ID# 1366:

User: Arjunningrum Submitted: 16/09/2018
UPDATE:

All of the sit spots I've tried are the same. It would be better if I come to you and let you try on my cuffs and see it by yourself, so you know exactly what the bug is.

Note ID# 1367:

User: Arjunningrum Submitted: 16/09/2018
UPDATE:

All of the sit spots I've tried are the same. It would be better if I come to you and let you try on my cuffs and see it by yourself, so you know exactly what the bug is.

Note ID# 1368:

User: Arjunningrum Submitted: 16/09/2018
UPDATE:

All of the sit spots I've tried are the same. It would be better if I come to you and let you try on my cuffs and see it by yourself, so you know exactly what the bug is.

Note ID# 1369:

User: Lulu Submitted: 16/09/2018
Updated status to Closed from Need Info.

Note ID# 1370:

User: Lulu Submitted: 16/09/2018
Reviewed the anims in question and unfortunately the behavior is as expected.

Basically Cuff anims are priority 4 anims, and will 'fight' with any other priority 4 anims from your AO or sofa, etc.

The worse-affected anim is usually the back-head, because the arm position are very different from most other AO/sofa anims.

So what can you do?
(1) Avoid using back-head (or any Cuff pose that fights too hard with your AO/sofa pose

(2) Turn off your AO/don't sit, when you want to use those Cuff poses.

(3) Remember to turn on 'refresh' in Cuffs Menu > settings > refresh if you wish your pose to try to dominate the AO/sit pose. You can turn 'refresh' off (you need to stop pose and restart pose to see effect) if it gives you problems in other situations.